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. >> let me tell you exactly what obama care did. [ speaking simultaneously ] >> reporter: then there was this. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. ♪ i love to move to the music >> reporter: the mere mention of cutting funds to big bird sent the social media world into high gear. pictures like this, with big bird on the ropes. president obama on the campaign trail. >> thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. >> reporter: the pentagon, which has been a close ally of the eight foot tall bird, was asked about it at the briefing. >> i'm not going to get into politics here. i wouldn't want to ruffle any feathers, so to speak. >> reporter: but big bird has some conservatives a little plucked. they argue that it's time to stop funding public broadcast programs like sesame street, npr and the pbs news hour. brian darling is with the conservative heritage foundation. >> i
. >> let me tell you exactly what obama care did. [ speaking simultaneously ] >> reporter: then there was this. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. ♪ i love to move to the music >> reporter: the mere mention of cutting funds to big bird sent the social media world into...
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vouchers or $761 billion cut to pay for obama care? i mean, the -- i would much rather -- >> not a cut in benefits, let's be clear. >> it's really important, though, to understand how would vouchers not empower you to have more control of your health care? i don't think medicare is going to be the deciding factor. i think it's going to be much, much more than that. >> after the debate, our analyst, cnn analyst david gergen had this to say. we have a horse race and we certainly do, no question about it in the state of florida. take a look at this polling with me. latest polling from the "wall street journal" shows a virtual dead heat. you see it there, obama 47% and romney 46%. you know the state better than most. what do you think romney has to do to tip it in his favor in. >> well, here's what he better not do. ten days ago he was behind. he came from behind and he is in a dead heat, as you know right now. if he plays prevent defense and i know his consultants are going to want him to be very, very careful and not make a mistake. that
vouchers or $761 billion cut to pay for obama care? i mean, the -- i would much rather -- >> not a cut in benefits, let's be clear. >> it's really important, though, to understand how would vouchers not empower you to have more control of your health care? i don't think medicare is going to be the deciding factor. i think it's going to be much, much more than that. >> after the debate, our analyst, cnn analyst david gergen had this to say. we have a horse race and we certainly...
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that's what democrats like about obama. they couldn't care less he is half black. caller: i have two questions. i wonder if there is a two- tiered justice system in this country. thousands and thousands of dollars while on the terrorist watch list. muslims get prosecuted for the same thing. i have another question. guest: that is not my interest. a're in the middle of presidential election. i just wrote this book. that is outside what i'm interested in. caller: do you think mitt romney will roll back the surveillance state? they are building a computer center in utah that is going to be directed at us. do you think romney will roll back the surveillance state? guest: we are against a fascist state at home because we want to be strong abroad. host: russell in south carolina. caller: good morning. it is always a pleasure to talk to the people at c-span. my comment with ann and the republicans -- it is amazing how she can just ignore the civil-rights movement and the voter rights bill. the voting rights bill actually changed the seven democrats in south carolina, miss
that's what democrats like about obama. they couldn't care less he is half black. caller: i have two questions. i wonder if there is a two- tiered justice system in this country. thousands and thousands of dollars while on the terrorist watch list. muslims get prosecuted for the same thing. i have another question. guest: that is not my interest. a're in the middle of presidential election. i just wrote this book. that is outside what i'm interested in. caller: do you think mitt romney will...
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coat obama-care reduces future spending on medicare by reducing payments to insurance companies hotels and other providers. not to the people receiving medicare. this does not effect a single benefit to medicare recipients. mitt don't say the $716 billion lie again. it is a lie. the reality is you want to turn it into a voucher program because you never believed in medicare. your party has never believed in medicare. you talk about how democrats are going to hurt medicare? nonsense. i'm not done yet. you want to talk about how you love teachers? go ahead mitt. >> romney: i love great schools. massachusetts is ranked number one in 50 states. the key to great schools great teachers. i reject the idea that i don't believe in great teachers. >> cenk: except when you want to fire them. >> he said we need more firemen, more teachers, did he not get the message of wisconsin? the american people did. it's time to cut back on government. >> cenk: there you are on tape. which one is it, mitt? i want the american people to be very clear on this. which one is it? do you want to fire the teachers o
coat obama-care reduces future spending on medicare by reducing payments to insurance companies hotels and other providers. not to the people receiving medicare. this does not effect a single benefit to medicare recipients. mitt don't say the $716 billion lie again. it is a lie. the reality is you want to turn it into a voucher program because you never believed in medicare. your party has never believed in medicare. you talk about how democrats are going to hurt medicare? nonsense. i'm not...
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the obama campaign strategy. how can the campaigns do a better job, in your view? >> certainly the romney campaign is going back to its argument that top-end tax cuts will help business owners, specifically. but if you look at the engagement that's happening on president obama's campaign, it's very fascinating. it's been focused at the neighborhood level, probably at an unusually early part of the cycle, they started doing the field operations. they're also organizing online, through a digital dashboard. so that these constituents can organize themselves. and that's probably the most interesting thing about this election cycle. you're seeing a new generation of candidates from within the community starting to challenge the debate in the country. you're starting to see activists who are actually forcing changes that wouldn't otherwise happen. and it's that organization at the ground that's going to make the biggest difference. and frankly, candidates across the board would be intelligent to be engaging in that con
the obama campaign strategy. how can the campaigns do a better job, in your view? >> certainly the romney campaign is going back to its argument that top-end tax cuts will help business owners, specifically. but if you look at the engagement that's happening on president obama's campaign, it's very fascinating. it's been focused at the neighborhood level, probably at an unusually early part of the cycle, they started doing the field operations. they're also organizing online, through a...
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say obama's going to show up. he's going to be aggressive. he is probably likely to over -- you know, go overboard. >> here's the obama narrative, simply, sean. fiattack governor romney as his campaign has, he drives up his negative and that improves his vote share. what his handlers are saying, you missed opportunity after opportunity to position governor romney as being on the far right. have you to do it in the town hall -- [overlapping dialogue] >> this is where i dissent. this is where i dissent from everyone that this is automatically an obama event. if the romney people -- which they have not-- the romney campaign hasn't got know any better than it has been, which is terrible. romney was really good. but the question they need to push on the president is, he didn't make these charges in the last debate, face it face. if they go after that and his advertising and force him to do it and it was a lot of people who don't like those kinds of attacks, the president's going to have problems this. vice-presidential
say obama's going to show up. he's going to be aggressive. he is probably likely to over -- you know, go overboard. >> here's the obama narrative, simply, sean. fiattack governor romney as his campaign has, he drives up his negative and that improves his vote share. what his handlers are saying, you missed opportunity after opportunity to position governor romney as being on the far right. have you to do it in the town hall -- [overlapping dialogue] >> this is where i dissent. this...
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president obama and i both care about poor and middle-class families. [ female announcer ] but this is what the budget plan mitt romney supports actually does. more huge tax breaks skewed to the wealthy. while cutting nearly eight hundred billion from medicaid... even though middle-class families rely on medicaid to help loved ones cover nursing-home care. and it helps parents support children with disabilities. if mitt romney really "cares," wouldn't we see it in his priorities? >>> in case you don't know the skins are home this sun against the falcons and here's my -- sunday against the falcons and here's my concern. they're home. usually they do much better on the road. >> it's good that they're winning on the road because if you win on the road, you can make the playoffs, but you got to win at home. they've lost seven in a row dating back to last season. they've only played at home once this year, not pretty. it won't get easier this weekend because the undefeated atlanta falcons are in town. so rg3 and company will have their hands full. earlier this week coach mike shanahan calle
president obama and i both care about poor and middle-class families. [ female announcer ] but this is what the budget plan mitt romney supports actually does. more huge tax breaks skewed to the wealthy. while cutting nearly eight hundred billion from medicaid... even though middle-class families rely on medicaid to help loved ones cover nursing-home care. and it helps parents support children with disabilities. if mitt romney really "cares," wouldn't we see it in his priorities?...
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. >> should the obama campaign be careful not to assume that voters will write romney off as this out-of-touch rich guy? >> he is very, very practiced. this is what i have said for the past couple of weeks. he gets into the debate prep room. he practices and practices. and the answer come across sounding extremely sincere. and the fact is i think that he is perhaps one of the betterer debaters in the republican party today. but when it comes to the facts, when it comes to what he will ultimately do when he governs, come to massachusetts and ask us. he raised fees by a billion dollars. he raised fees on hunters. there is this baby thing going on right now. we've heard him going after big bird. in massachusetts, he made it more expensive to be a baby. he increased the cost of berth certificates. so people need to understand, you can say anything when you're running, and he does, and he will. but how did he govern? in massachusetts he has less than a 30% favorability rating. and president obama is winning by over 20 people. the people in massachusetts have seen how he will govern, are not happy w
. >> should the obama campaign be careful not to assume that voters will write romney off as this out-of-touch rich guy? >> he is very, very practiced. this is what i have said for the past couple of weeks. he gets into the debate prep room. he practices and practices. and the answer come across sounding extremely sincere. and the fact is i think that he is perhaps one of the betterer debaters in the republican party today. but when it comes to the facts, when it comes to what he...
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. >> if obama care is repealed, how would you replace it? >> actually, it's a lengthy description but number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. >> pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. keeping them honest, that assurance is misleading and a short time later, a top campaign adviser had to clarify what his boss actually meant. under mr. romney's plan, he said, pre-existing conditions would only be covered for people who already have insurance to begin with, but are changing jobs and therefore, health insurance plans. that's not who most people think of when it comes to pre-existing conditions. ironically, the health care reform law mitt romney signed as governor and remains in effect today in massachusetts does mandate coverage for anyone with pre-existing conditions, whether they already have health insurance or not. a bit later in the program, we will talk about one of the few moments that mr. romney failed to strike a tone of moderation. it concerns a great big yellow bird. that makes it on our "ridiculist"
. >> if obama care is repealed, how would you replace it? >> actually, it's a lengthy description but number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. >> pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. keeping them honest, that assurance is misleading and a short time later, a top campaign adviser had to clarify what his boss actually meant. under mr. romney's plan, he said, pre-existing conditions would only be covered for people who already have insurance to...
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debate and the candidates sparred as you heard over taxes and the deficit as well as health care. wall street reform and the role of government. with mitt romney taking some sharp shots at the president's record these past four years. >> we're seeing right now is, in my view, a trickle down government approach which has government thinking it can do a better job than free people pursuing their dreams and that's not working the. proof of that is 23 million people out of work and the proof one out of six people in poverty, the proof 32 million on food stamps to 47 million on food stamps the proof of that 50% of college graduates this year can't find work. >> paul: there's little doubt romney's commander performance helped the g.o.p. ticket. the question is, how much? let's ask wall street journal columnist and deputy editor dan henninger, mary anna stacia o'grady and kim strassel. dan, how important was this debate for mitt romney's candidacy. >> it was not only very important for mitt romney's candidacy, paul, it was very important for us. i think he both rescued his candidacy and
debate and the candidates sparred as you heard over taxes and the deficit as well as health care. wall street reform and the role of government. with mitt romney taking some sharp shots at the president's record these past four years. >> we're seeing right now is, in my view, a trickle down government approach which has government thinking it can do a better job than free people pursuing their dreams and that's not working the. proof of that is 23 million people out of work and the proof...
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he is getting cheers about remarks of repealing obama care. carl is on the job . campaign carl, we don't call him that for nothing. moving on now . and sticking with the economy. gas prices reaching an all-time high in one state. that plays in to the economy especially where people are seeing upards to five dollars a gallonon and a serve of deadly attacks. they are known as green on blue attackings. oliver north is embedded with our troops and he joins us live next. and a u.s. navy seal who made the ultimate sacrifice for our nation is honored. we'll show you the u.s. navy is choosing to remember his name . [ male announcer ] this is sheldo whose long day setting up the news starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. now we need a little bit more... a little bit more vanilla? this is great! [ male announcer ] at humana, we believe there's never been a better time to share your passions... because the results... are you havi
he is getting cheers about remarks of repealing obama care. carl is on the job . campaign carl, we don't call him that for nothing. moving on now . and sticking with the economy. gas prices reaching an all-time high in one state. that plays in to the economy especially where people are seeing upards to five dollars a gallonon and a serve of deadly attacks. they are known as green on blue attackings. oliver north is embedded with our troops and he joins us live next. and a u.s. navy seal who...
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>> i don't care. i'm going to go one further than erin. not only does the absolute number of the unemployment percentage not matter. i don't even think the trend matters. bottom line is there are measures of unemployment much more important. the number of jobs created minus lost. the average hours worked in a week and wages. we measure that every month, but we're so caught up in this percentage rate. guess what? republicans hated the fact it was above 8%. no president gets elected with rates above 8%. what's the main accusation today? that the books are cooked. >> hold on. we're going to get to it. >> it doesn't matter. >> okay, you cited a lot of stuff there. so all that stuff considered, are we better off now or not? >> yes. >> i would have liked the the numbers we had in 2011 beginning of 2012 when we were growing more jobs per month. 114,000. it's not great. that is not a number barack obama should be crowing about. t not a number mitt romney should be accusatory about. barack obama has created more jobs while in office than were lost,
>> i don't care. i'm going to go one further than erin. not only does the absolute number of the unemployment percentage not matter. i don't even think the trend matters. bottom line is there are measures of unemployment much more important. the number of jobs created minus lost. the average hours worked in a week and wages. we measure that every month, but we're so caught up in this percentage rate. guess what? republicans hated the fact it was above 8%. no president gets elected with...
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he promised to make health care more affordable. yeah president obama promise to get our spending under control by cutting the deficits in half. he also was so confident that shortly after taking office, president obama said he would fix the economy in three years or face a one term proposition. today he has broken those promises. now his words have no credibility. midway to the debate, the president realized that he had an president for the past four years and it was his policies and his agenda that failed to produce any of the results that a promised us as a candidate. president obama had not shown the kind of leadership we need. the face crisis today. which requires a steady hand. in a leader focus on the job. a president obama's focus has been on saving his own job. as party chairman, i understand that the president must campaign. but he also has a job to do. while barack obama enjoys being president, he does not seem to enjoy the work required in being a great president. for example, he has not bother to meet with his own jobs
he promised to make health care more affordable. yeah president obama promise to get our spending under control by cutting the deficits in half. he also was so confident that shortly after taking office, president obama said he would fix the economy in three years or face a one term proposition. today he has broken those promises. now his words have no credibility. midway to the debate, the president realized that he had an president for the past four years and it was his policies and his...
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grow government anyway you're just going to get a slight decrease in spending from a romney presidency obama you both should be happy liberals or conservatives should all be very happy with the growth of government would be because it because anybody who cares about liberty or freedom or free markets they're screwed anybody who is a working poor but i want to go wherever your freedom riders are you know they're going to go about us remember it is terrible you know it's about us first we've got to have liberty for the koch brothers i get it you know we've got to deregulate their oil plants and then they're and they're paid. mills and things like them poison more people i can guarantee you whatever i have got in with you know it's not i know i know understand would be regulations are as you can all it's not surprising at all that romney is running away from the positions he took in the republican primary because the republican party has been completely co-opted by by wall street by the billionaires part of the part of the democratic party have to i'm not going to apologize for them too but you
grow government anyway you're just going to get a slight decrease in spending from a romney presidency obama you both should be happy liberals or conservatives should all be very happy with the growth of government would be because it because anybody who cares about liberty or freedom or free markets they're screwed anybody who is a working poor but i want to go wherever your freedom riders are you know they're going to go about us remember it is terrible you know it's about us first we've got...
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he tried pass national care. america responded by voting in the republican revolution of 1994 and oh boy did we see an about-face with bill clinton. usually when you suffer a devastating defeat like that you see the american people aren't aproving of your policies and that was when clinton really became a d.l.c., democratic leadership council democrat and pretty much just signed everything the newt gingrich congress sent up to him. that's the commi economy that democrats -- that's the economy that democrats are bragging about that obama had to brag about in the debate another night. he can't do anything his four years. he's got to go back to the clinton era. the reason the clinton era office is prosperous it wasn't prosperous the first four years of the clinton administration. oh no. it was when the republican congress came in beginning in january of 1995 passing welfare reform, fantastic criminal law provisions, we slipped a tax cut in. that was the republican congress driving the bus and clinton signing what wa
he tried pass national care. america responded by voting in the republican revolution of 1994 and oh boy did we see an about-face with bill clinton. usually when you suffer a devastating defeat like that you see the american people aren't aproving of your policies and that was when clinton really became a d.l.c., democratic leadership council democrat and pretty much just signed everything the newt gingrich congress sent up to him. that's the commi economy that democrats -- that's the economy...
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that the economy, that health care, that a lot of there things mattered more. like in 201, a lot of things mattered a whole lot more than reverend wright. it's not going to move swing voters at all. >> also in a certain way it's a triumph of -- as much as i'm irritated by these sort of pockets of racialized discourse that emerge, i think there's -- there's something triumph not final, not now we're in a post-racial america but something triumph about the idea that this president in 2008 was able to suggest to the american people these other things matter more than any particular negative association you have around race. >> but remember how he did that. this is one of the things i think is too often forgotten. he did it by talking about race. the way he actually got out of the reverend wright problem that he had was he actually, in philadelphia, delivered a speech on race in america and said, we have to have this discussion. and one of the things that he demonstrated is that you can be the black leader who talks about race if you talk about it well. and i think
that the economy, that health care, that a lot of there things mattered more. like in 201, a lot of things mattered a whole lot more than reverend wright. it's not going to move swing voters at all. >> also in a certain way it's a triumph of -- as much as i'm irritated by these sort of pockets of racialized discourse that emerge, i think there's -- there's something triumph not final, not now we're in a post-racial america but something triumph about the idea that this president in 2008...
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i do not really care about that distinction. and frankly, i actually found it quite shocking to see governor romney in a speech taking a set of positions about the middle east that, to say the least, box him in in a way presidents do not usually want to be boxed in. it was a rather tight commitment that mitt romney made with that donor in the front row. i am troubled by that, and i have an argument with a friend of mine. he has other priorities as well. i do not think it matters. you want to create a structure where elected officials are not wholly dependent on a given donor or not largely dependent. you want them to be in a situation where if they are in office and they really want x, y, z, you want the elected officials to go as senator mccain seriously did "get out of my office." >> so, there i would make the republican plea for judicial modesty and say, look, the discussion we have had indicates there is not a simple open and shut cancer. -- up and -- open and shut answer. they spent all this time on it and came up with what
i do not really care about that distinction. and frankly, i actually found it quite shocking to see governor romney in a speech taking a set of positions about the middle east that, to say the least, box him in in a way presidents do not usually want to be boxed in. it was a rather tight commitment that mitt romney made with that donor in the front row. i am troubled by that, and i have an argument with a friend of mine. he has other priorities as well. i do not think it matters. you want to...
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and i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100%. >> president obama didn't bring up the 47% remarks in the debate and caught a lot of flack for it. i question it here on this network to one of his advisers. but he probably wanted to avoid giving romney the chance to address it in front of 67 million people, that kind of platform. the romney camp wasn't satisfied. they were probably expecting it to give their candidate an opportunity. okay. so they're not happy with the good debate performance and wanted a bite at the 47% apple to straighten things out. they sent romney over to fox news so romney can finally say he was wrong on a different platform of course. romney sure took his sweet time. he didn't say he was wrong two and a half weeks ago. >> well, you know, it's not elegantly stated. let plea put it that way. i am speaking off the cuff in response to a question, and i'm sure i could state it more clearly and in a more effective way. but it's a message which i'm going to carry and continue to carry, which is look. the president's approach is attrac
and i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100%. >> president obama didn't bring up the 47% remarks in the debate and caught a lot of flack for it. i question it here on this network to one of his advisers. but he probably wanted to avoid giving romney the chance to address it in front of 67 million people, that kind of platform. the romney camp wasn't satisfied. they were probably expecting it to give their candidate an opportunity. okay. so they're not...
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you mentioned appealing president obama's health care reform law. that is something that will continue to be hotly debated. we have two more debates left. there is a lot of uncertainty about not only what obamas's second term will look like, but what a mitt romney first term will look like as he takes the white house in november. host: an e-mail sent from ohio. isn't the question of wages more important than jobs? the person making minimum wage is no better off and someone receiving welfare. to the point about wages, what do we find out there from the release of the report? guest: i do not know the exact details of the report in terms of wages going up or down. he makes a good point. wages are important. welfare is something that president obama and mitt romney have been trading barbs over as to whether the president is someone capable of turning this country into a place where people do not have to rely so much on government subsidies because they are out of work. i think that issue is very politically charged and we will see it debated in the comi
you mentioned appealing president obama's health care reform law. that is something that will continue to be hotly debated. we have two more debates left. there is a lot of uncertainty about not only what obamas's second term will look like, but what a mitt romney first term will look like as he takes the white house in november. host: an e-mail sent from ohio. isn't the question of wages more important than jobs? the person making minimum wage is no better off and someone receiving welfare. to...
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care. he smoothly went into the points. he gave real smiles, but most of the smiles were in irritation to things he thought romney were saying that were absolutely ridiculous, like you have no idea how this job it was the smile he was giving romney. >> eventually it ended. >> yes. >> let's talk about the hugs and the handshakes at the end. what did you see there? >> yes. >> remember we talked about obama being in control in the beginning. that's the primacy effect and there's a recency effect at the end of the debate, the last thing a viewer remembers and it's very interesting. romney didn't want to leave the stage. kept staying and stretching it out. >> enjoying the moment. >> he wanted to be the last visual that we had of i won this debate. he just revelled in it and stayed and stayed and stayed, and obama left. >> what about obama's body language at the end though, did he seem -- he seemed to be sort of hunched over a little bit. >> he did. i thought that was very interesting. again, i d
care. he smoothly went into the points. he gave real smiles, but most of the smiles were in irritation to things he thought romney were saying that were absolutely ridiculous, like you have no idea how this job it was the smile he was giving romney. >> eventually it ended. >> yes. >> let's talk about the hugs and the handshakes at the end. what did you see there? >> yes. >> remember we talked about obama being in control in the beginning. that's the primacy effect...
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care. >> by the way, the next moderator is cnn state of the union anchor, candy crowly. >> as paul said, it is the much anticipated vice president debate. our coverage begins at 7:30 eastern time. >>> all right, who wouldn't want to fly like an eagle? when we get back, we'll give and bird's eye view of the world. ♪ atmix of energies.ve the world needs a broader that's why we're supplying natural gas to generate cleaner electricity... that has around 50% fewer co2 emissions than coal. and it's also why, with our partner in brazil, shell is producing ethanol - a biofuel made from renewable sugarcane. >>a minute, mom! let's broaden the world's energy mix. let's go. mike rowe here at a ford tell me fiona, who's having a big tire event? your ford dealer. who has 11 major brands to choose from? your ford dealer. who's offering a rebate? your ford dealer. who has the low price tire guarantee... affording peace of mind to anyone who might be in the market for a new set of res? your ford dealer. i'm beginning to sense a pattern. buy four select tires, get a $60 rebate. use the ford service cre
care. >> by the way, the next moderator is cnn state of the union anchor, candy crowly. >> as paul said, it is the much anticipated vice president debate. our coverage begins at 7:30 eastern time. >>> all right, who wouldn't want to fly like an eagle? when we get back, we'll give and bird's eye view of the world. ♪ atmix of energies.ve the world needs a broader that's why we're supplying natural gas to generate cleaner electricity... that has around 50% fewer co2...
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what about obama's smile? >> well he had a couple of real smiles when he won a couple of points, when he was talking about obama care and he smoothly went into the points. he gave real smiles. but most of the smiles were in irritation to things he thought romney were saying were absolutely ridiculous. like you have no idea how hard this job is was the smile he was giving romney. >> so eventually it ended. let's talk about the hugs and the hand shakes at the end. what did you see there? >> remember we talked about obama being in control at the beginning. that's the primacy effect. there's a recency effect that occurs at the end of the debate the last thing viewers remember. it was very interesting. romney didn't want to leave the stage. he kept staying. he wanted to be the last visual we had. he revelled in it. obama left. >> what about obama's body language at the end. did he seem to be hunched over a little bit? >> he did. >> very interesting. >> again, i do feel like he realized he didn't do well. and there
what about obama's smile? >> well he had a couple of real smiles when he won a couple of points, when he was talking about obama care and he smoothly went into the points. he gave real smiles. but most of the smiles were in irritation to things he thought romney were saying were absolutely ridiculous. like you have no idea how hard this job is was the smile he was giving romney. >> so eventually it ended. let's talk about the hugs and the hand shakes at the end. what did you see...
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obama care son my list, i apologize, mr. president. i use that term with all respect. >> i like it. >> okay, good. so i will get rid of that i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things to pbs i like big bird and i like you too. i'm not going to stop borrowing money from china to pay for it. >> i thought lehrer was big bird. first let's go with the president looking down while romney is speaking. >> i'm comparing this to 2008. this wasn't a good thing. typically when he looks down he is trying show his disagreement. i don't agree what you are saying. tight jaw, clinched lip. there is also a level of intimidation i think in parts of the clip where he doesn't feel good about what's going on with romney. he feels insecure with romney. >> bill: shouldn't he be looking at romney isn't that much better body language. >> much better. more powerful to look at him. >> bill: looking away showing weakness. >> you don't deserve my eye contact therefore i'm not going to give it to you. >> bill: condescending.
obama care son my list, i apologize, mr. president. i use that term with all respect. >> i like it. >> okay, good. so i will get rid of that i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things to pbs i like big bird and i like you too. i'm not going to stop borrowing money from china to pay for it. >> i thought lehrer was big bird. first let's go with the president looking down while romney is speaking. >> i'm comparing this to 2008. this...